Episode

Why AI is going vertical (again) | Dianne Penn (Anthropic)

Dianne Penn, head of product for Anthropic's AI research and labs teams, traces the company's evolution from five product engineers in 2023 through Opus 3 and Opus 4.5 to today's frontier models, explaining how coding became a differentiator almost by accident. She describes how product management has shifted from writing PRDs to writing evals, why researchers need founder-like ambition, and why staying hands-on and experimenting with each new model is essential for anyone working alongside AI.