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Ivan Zhao on Lenny’s Podcast

Ivan Zhao, co-founder and CEO of Notion, discusses building a horizontal productivity platform that serves as 'Lego for software.' He shares the company's difficult early years (which he calls the 'lost years'), the philosophy of hiding complex capabilities behind familiar interfaces (sugar-coated broccoli), and how they've maintained lean operations while scaling to billions in valuation.

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Ivan Zhao

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