… And at the time the competitors were Microsoft and others and a handful of maybe 10 or 20 companies. Um and I think it's notable that none of those competitors are at the forefront of AI coding ri...
Before Anthropic, at Microsoft, Fiona ran the teams that built TypeScript and Visual Studio.
… And and look, we there's we can see past examples with Microsoft, you know, Microsoft was a brutal monopoly. They were a brutal platform.
… happened of course is that Microsoft uses distribution to break their to break in.
… Microsoft. I get it.
… this, I could see why investors would be like, I guess so. But slides has been around, PowerPoint has been around 40 years.
… I think Slack, look, Slack and Microsoft Teams are still battling it out at the enterprise. I think it's also how you plug in and how you integrate and do they even have the right systems to...
… They were talking about how it's a generational thing that a certain generation uses Microsoft, a certain generation uses Google. Gen Z, the way they design a presentation is in Canva, but it's not just generational for those with other…
… the listeners, I was part of the GPT-2=3 project at OpenAI, ended up being one of the first authors on the paper, and I also did a bunch of demos for Microsoft to help raise $1 billion from them, did the tech transfer of GPT-3 to their…
'll talk about Microsoft's Azure. So when Microsoft came to us, they were pretty much stuck.
… I remember joining Microsoft first in my career. Some of the products I worked on during my internship had not shipped till I left Microsoft three, four years later.
… Along those lines, it's interesting that Microsoft was actually at the center of this first, with an amazing product, amazing distribution, Copilot you said was the thing that got you over the hump of...
… The answer is Microsoft is going to be the winner in any software category. Isn't that the answer?
… He's also an engineer at Microsoft and a couple other companies. Most recently, he's the co-founder and CEO of Captions, one of the most successful and cutting-edge consumer AI product...
… It's not to make engineers more productive, which there's a lot of companies using AI to make engineers more productive, Microsoft did with co-pilot and so on. But it is to enable those who have such a hard time finding people who are…
… And Microsoft decided that wait a minute, we don't have our own maps, so let's invest in Waze. So we ended up getting investment from someone that we did not expec...
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… I'm running aggressive marketing against Microsoft because they have really a terrible product, Copilot, that I have to position against and market against. Is that a good idea?
… Because I did scheduled one-on-ones my whole career and I realized after leaving Microsoft for three years, I'm like, where are all those one-on-ones useful once a week for three years, right? A hundred and fifty one-on-ones.
… and if you think it's just for small companies, that's how Microsoft beat WordPerfect, because Microsoft Word was the format you needed your coworkers to work in if you were using a modern computer, because if they ins...
… So before Whiz, they founded Adallom, which sold to Microsoft. (00:51:51): That's how they all ended up in Microsoft in the first place.
… oneering product and customer experience consulting firm Creative Good for over 15 years, where Phyl and the team had companies like Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, and hundreds of other companies as customers. Phyl also co-authored…
… Think about Microsoft and its monopoly on PC operating systems, or it's near monopoly on PC operating systems. And I would argue that they abuse that kind of monopoly.
… People forget that Bill Gates stole the code on which Microsoft has built. People forget that Jeffrey Epstein, after being convicted of sex offenses, was still having dinners with members of the royal family and m...
… For Microsoft, it was five years. For Netflix, it was 10 years.
… (00:43:52): And I heard that Microsoft, who was one of our biggest customers, was doing a experimentation day with Optimizely, and I knew Optimizely was a natural acquirer. And I knew I ha...
… you're Microsoft right now and you're trying to adapt to AI, you have a diagnosis. Well, what's going on?
… Maybe a last question just around Microsoft. It feels like Microsoft is firing on all cylinders.
… So let's say if they came over from Microsoft, if Microsoft had some methodology or criteria, they probably would just apply that. (01:15:38): Well, is that methodology or criteria relevant to o...
… I think the difference, if you think about a company like Microsoft and what this looks like, this is just a really good example of this bottoms-up motion in market. Here's a funny story that I want to add.